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UN LEEJ TWG TSIS txhaum BY puas siab puas ntsws puas 22:31

Wednesday, 25 Cuaj hlis 2013

United Nations NTIAJ TEB KEV MOB NKEEG ORGANISATION TSIS txhaum BY puas siab puas ntsws puas YOG International txoj cai
R v Alexander MARCEL Andre SEBASTIAN BARKER BAILIFF
[2011] ACTSC 214 (30 Kaum ib hlis 2011)












Ex TEMPORE kev txiav txim









Tsis SCC 139 ntawm 2009

Kws txiav txim plaub: Higgins CJ
Supreme Court ntawm ACT
Date: 30 Kaum ib hlis 2011
HAUV Supreme lub tsev hais plaub NTAWM LUB)
) Tsis SCC 139 ntawm 2009
Australian capital ib ncig)


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Alexander MARCEL Andre SEBASTIAN BARKER BAILIFF








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Kws txiav txim plaub: Higgins CJ
Date: 30 Kaum ib hlis 2011
Qhov chaw: Canberra

Lub tsev hais plaub xaj TIAS:

Qhov tus neeg raug foob tsis txhaum los ntawm yog vim li cas ntawm kev puas hlwb puas.

Koj GILL: Cov liam pleads tsis ua txhaum mus rau lub them nyiaj. Siv nyob rau hauv uas plea yog ib tug plea ntawm tsis txhaum los ntawm yog vim li cas ntawm kev puas hlwb puas, uas vim muaj cov tsos mob ntawm lub hlwb puas tsuaj.
Nws HONOUR: Tau. Tag nrho cov cai.
Koj GILL: Nrog kuv tus phooj ywg kev tso cai nyob rau hauv lub commencement ntawm sim Hais Plaub, kuv kev sib tw ib tsab ntawv ceeb toom los ntawm Graham George.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj GILL: Koj Honour twb muaj nyob rau hauv tsab ntawv ceeb toom hais tias hnav ntawm cov ntaub ntawv uas tendered rau muaj zog rau plea Hais Plaub.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj GILL: Nws yog ib qho kev tshaj qhia hom qub 29 lub Plaub Hlis Ntuj 2011.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, Kuv muaj tias.
Koj GILL: Kuv kev sib tw ib yam ntawm cov txuas raug xa mus rau hauv nws uas muaj xws li tsab xov xwm los ntawm koj Leeshman.
Koj LAWTON: Los yog ib tug reference rau nws.
Koj GILL: Reference rau ib tsab xov xwm los ntawm koj Leeshman.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, Kuv muaj tias. Ua tsaug rau koj.
Koj GILL: uas koj Honour yuav pom tias Dr George hais tias: "koj Bailiff muaj ib qho uas tsim mob ntawm ib qho kev puas siab puas ntsws organic teeb meem no, inclusive ntawm ib tug persistently hypermanic rau manic Mood teeb meem no nyob rau hauv koom nrog tus hloov thiab peev xwm nyuab." Kuv nco ntsoov tias tsab ntawv ceeb toom twb npaj nyob rau hauv relation kom muaj zog mus rau plead, tab sis peb hais tias hais tias nce qhov teeb meem ntawm kev puas hlwb puas.
Nws HONOUR: zoo nws yog ib lub hom phiaj circumstance thiab lub hom phiaj rau cov uas nws yog npaj tau hais tias yog ib qho tseem ceeb.
Koj GILL: On tau txais daim ntawv hais tias tsab ntawv ceeb toom, thiab ua ntej lub commencement ntawm tus so ntawm mus sib, kuv nug koj tus Honour kom mus tas li nyob twj ywm lub txheej txhem.
Nws HONOUR: On li cas hauv paus?
Koj GILL: Nyob rau hauv paus uas muaj ntau kev ncua nyob rau hauv lub Hais Plaub.
Nws HONOUR: Unreasonable ncua kuv xav tias tsis yog lub sij hawm.
Koj GILL: Daim ntawv thov yog ua nyob rau hauv tso siab on cai ntawm R v Kara Lesley Mills [2011] ACTSC 109 ('Mills') thiab txoj cai uas yog conferred nyob rau hauv Human Rights Act 2004 (ACT) ('Human Rights Act') raws li pom zoo los ntawm koj tus Honour nyob rau hauv Mills.
Nws HONOUR: Nws yeej yog tias.
Koj GILL: Peb lees paub tias cov ntaub ntawv no tsis koom nrog rau qhov kev ncua uas pom nyob rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv ntawm Kara Mills. Qhov kev ncua nyob rau hauv nws cov ntaub ntawv yog ib tug ntau yam ntxiv grievous ncua.
Nws HONOUR: Egregious, yawg. Muaj kuj yog rau lo lus nug ntawm kev thaum tus ncaj ncees ntawm tus txheej txhem.
Koj GILL: Nyob rau hauv MS Mills 'rooj plaub, helpfully, koj Honour sau tseg muaj ib qho kev ncua mus rau ntau txoj cai ciaj ciam uas enabled qhov nyiaj pab ntawm ib tug nyob, nyob rau hauv hais tias muaj ib tug tsis tau yuav tsum mus nrhiav cov uas lwm yam ntau yam tseem ceeb los raws li txoj cai uas tau raug yav tas yuav tsum tau vim txoj cai yuav tsum tau hnov ​​nyob rau hauv Human Rights Act.
Cov teeb meem uas peb hais no tshwm sim nyob rau hauv sib piv rau Mills, yog tias Mills muab kev koom tes yog ib tug raug teeb meem loj ua txhaum nyob rau hauv relation mus siv tshuaj yaj yeeb trafficking. Yog li qhov ua txhaum uas yog coj ua ntej koj Honour hnub no tsis poob mus rau hais tias cov pab pawg. Txawm yog hais tias nws tsis yog Categorized raws li ib tug trivial ua txhaum, peb xav hais tias nyob rau hauv tag nrho Scheme ntawm teeb meem nws yog ib tug muaj hnub nyoog ua txhaum nyob rau hauv lub siab hais tias qhov ua txhaum cai nws tus kheej tsis yog nyob rau feem ntau loj heev thiaj li ntawm qhov ntau thiab cov ---
Nws HONOUR: Kuv rov qab hais tias kuv lawb tawm mus ib tug them nyiaj nyob rau hauv relation mus rau lwm tus neeg, koj Robertson Kuv xav tias nws lub npe mas, leej twg kev txom nyem los ntawm txiav txim siab puas siab puas ntsws tej teeb meem. Kuv lawb tawm mus nws rau hauv av ntawm txheeb ze triviality, nyob rau hauv qhov teeb meem txhaum cai Act 1914 (Cth) ntawm hoob no.
Koj GILL: Well no yog sib xws ib puas tsuaj rau vaj tse hom ua txhaum.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, nws yog ib qhov.
Koj GILL: Tiam sis thaum ib tug zoo nyob rau hauv lub Scope ntawm yog dab tsi lub encompassed puas vaj tse ---
Nws HONOUR: Well kuv xav tias kuv yuav tsum tau muaj ntau on tias.
Koj BAILIFF: Thov zam txim, koj Honour. Yuav peb nrhiav kev mus rau kev sib tw lub Magna Carta rau lub sij hawm ntawm lub sij hawm ua ntej mus sib tshwm sim?
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog, peb tsis tas yuav lub Magna Carta, nws tau raug repealed.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis koj Honour ---
Nws HONOUR: Nws tau repealed. Siv ib lub rooj.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis koj Honour, tus Constitution yog British li zoo.
Nws HONOUR: Nws yog tseem repealed.
Koj BAILIFF: Peb tau tsis repealed nws tsis tau, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Muaj, peb muaj. Mus on.
Koj GILL: Yog li koj Honour yuav tsum muaj tus case nqe lus muaj rau koj.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, kuv muaj.
Koj GILL: Kuv muaj tsis muaj tsis pom zoo rau koj Honour pom tias rooj plaub daim ntawv qhia.
Nws HONOUR: Tau. Zoo kuv presume tias yuav rooj plaub cia siab rau thaum lawm, koj Gill.
Koj GILL: Nws yog ib. Muaj ib qho kev hu rau koj Franks.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv koj muab kuv rau lwm daim ntawv luam? Muaj ntau cov ntaub ntawv nyob rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv tam sim no. Kuv xav tias hais tias Crown xav concede tias cov lus tseeb yuav tsim tshwj tsis yog rau ---
Koj LAWTON: Yog, muaj ib co muaj hnub nyoog tsis pom zoo hais txog cov mechanism.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, Kuv to taub.
Koj LAWTON: Muaj ib qho kev muaj feem loj tsis sib haum puag ncig qhov kev tshwm sim uas ua rau koj Bailiff ua nyob rau hauv xws li ib yam.
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog, Kuv to taub nws xaav yog tias tus qauv nws ua twb ua rog tau thiab nws xav nws muaj cai los mus tiv thaiv nws tus kheej nyob rau hauv kev hwm ntawm hais tias, los yog tiv thaiv lub qauv yog hais tias koj nyiam. Nyob rau ntawm txoj cai hais tias yuav tsis khiav.
Koj GILL: yeej ib yam ntawm nws tiv thaiv nws yog kev ntseeg ntawm ib tug entitlement ua nyob rau hauv raws nyob rau hauv uas nws ua.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, Kuv to taub tias. Raws li kuv hais, hais tias yuav tsis txais li ib lub teeb meem ntawm txoj cai lij choj, tab sis nws yuav pom raws li nws generated by organic nws lub hlwb puas mob.
Koj GILL: Tau. Tau, thiab nws mus hais tias cov txheej xwm nyob rau hauv qhov kev puas hlwb puas.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv xav muaj teeb meem nyob rau hauv rejecting tias kuv xav.
Koj GILL: Lub yam muaj nuj nqes ntawm hais tias nyob rau hauv daim ntawv thov rau ib tug nyob yog tias thaum ib tug zoo nyob rau hauv lub qhov ntawm qhov ua txhaum thiab ib tug zoo nyob rau hauv lub qhov ntawm lub liam, qhov ua txhaum nws tus kheej tsis poob nyob rau hauv lub degree ntawm qhov ntau hais tias ib tug pom nyob rau hauv Mills cov ntaub ntawv.
Nws HONOUR: Nws ua tsis tau, tsis muaj hais tias yog qhov tseeb.
Koj GILL: lub ntsiab lus hais tias ib tug tsawg ncua justifies ib tug nrhiav tau hais tias muaj ib tug unjustifiable ncua vim qhov ntawm qhov ua txhaum uas yog coj ua ntej lub tsev hais plaub.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv xav hais tias muaj hais txog keeb kwm ntawm qhov teeb meem, on tshuav nyiaj, kuv tsis xav tias ib rooj plaub rau ib tug neeg nyob yog tau tawm.
Koj GILL: Raws li lub tsev hais plaub pleases.
Nws HONOUR: koj Lawton.
Koj LAWTON: Koj Honour, li peb kos tus cim rau tias tsab ntawv ceeb toom ntawm Dr George raws li ib qho kev tso rau neeg siab?
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog kuv tsis muaj, tiam sis kuv yuav tau ua li ntawd.
Koj LAWTON: Tau.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai, koj puas xav kom kuv mus kos tus cim rau tias raws li tso rau neeg siab 1?
Koj LAWTON: Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour.
Tso rau neeg siab 1 - DR George LUB Report
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj LAWTON: Nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus ntawm cov ntaub ntawv daim ntawv qhia, raws li koj twb hais tias muaj ib co tsis pom zoo txog qhov tseeb hais tias kuv ---
Nws HONOUR: Ib txhia cov ntsiab lus.
Koj LAWTON: Thiab kuv ib tug phooj ywg tsis nrog mus hla-xyuas briefly koj Franks.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj LAWTON: Kuv yuav hu mus rau nws tam sim no thiab ces kuv to taub tias kuv tus phooj ywg tej zaum yuav hu rau ib co pov thawj los ntawm koj Bailiff nyob rau hauv kev hwm rau qhov teeb meem ntawm kev puas hlwb puas.
Koj GILL: Kuv yuav ua ib daim ntawv thov kev Prasad thawj zaug, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, zoo uas tej zaum yuav tsim nyog nyob rau hauv qhov kev tshwm sim, muab tso rau neeg siab 1.
Koj LAWTON: Tau.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai, cas. Mus.
Koj LAWTON: Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour. Kuv hu rau Gerald Franks.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour yog hais tias koj hu rau kuv kuv yuav cia koj paub dab tsi tshwm sim thiab yog hais tias koj xav.
Nws HONOUR: Tus ntawd yog tag nrho cov cai, tej zaum peb yuav tsis xav kom muab koj Bailiff vim hais tias kuv tsis xav tias yuav muaj ntau heev daws txog nws.
Koj BAILIFF: Well nws tuaj rau hauv kuv lub tsev nyob rau ntau sij hawm nrog tus yawm sij.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai. Calm down, yuav ntsiag to thiab peb yuav cia li hnov ​​no pov thawj ua ntej.
Koj BAILIFF: Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour.
GERALD David FRANKS, Affirmed:

Kev soj ntsuam-HAUV-Thawj BY koj LAWTON

Koj LAWTON: Sir, tau qhia rau koj lub tsev hais plaub rau koj tag nrho lub npe? --- Gerald David Franks.
Thiab koj ua hauj lwm raws li ib tug neeg ua hauj lwm kev sib raug zoo nyob rau hauv lub Canberra txiv neej lub Centre? --- Kuv ua hauj lwm raws li ib tug thawj coj ntawm cov txiv neej lub Centre, yawg.
Thiab nyob rau hauv kev hwm rau qhov teeb meem ua ntej lub tsev hais plaub koj paub hais tias koj yog cov ntawm no mus rau muab pov thawj hnub no hais txog ib tug teeb meem nrog koj Bailiff uas tshwm sim nyob rau 30 Lub ib hlis ntuj 2009? --- Yog.
Thiab nyob rau hnub ntawd koj muab ib daim ntawv qhia mus rau tub ceev xwm handwritten txog dab tsi koj witnessed on hnub ntawd? --- Yog.
Thiab koj kos npe rau daim ntawv qhia uas sau cia rau qhov zoo tshaj plaws ntawm koj tus muaj peev xwm tus txheem ntawm lub ntsiab lus kuj muaj tseeb thiab koj yeej txaus siab muab pov thawj txog lawv nyob rau hauv lub tsev hais plaub? --- Yog.
Kuv yuav qhia koj Ua ntej daim ntawv no, Sir. Muaj peev xwm koj cia li paub tseeb hais tias hais tias yog ib tug luam ntawm daim ntawv qhia koj muab rau hnub ntawd thiab nws muaj xws li koj kos npe rau ntawm qhov kawg ntawm tus nqe lus? --- Nws yog, thiab tsis.
Thiab koj puas tau ib lub caij mus nyeem uas nyob rau hauv tus tsis ntev los no lub sij hawm? --- Tau, kuv nyeem nws no thaum sawv ntxov.
Thiab mus rau qhov zoo tshaj plaws ntawm koj tus recollection tus txheem muaj tseeb? --- Tau.
Ua tsaug rau koj. Kuv kev sib tw hais tias daim ntawv qhia, koj Honour. Kuv kuj txhais tes ib typed daim qauv ntawm daim ntawv qhia uas typed ib fortnight tom qab.
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog tawm tsam?
Koj GILL: Tsis yog, tsis muaj tawm tsam mus rau hais tias, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Qhov yuav tso rau neeg siab 2.
Tso rau neeg siab 2 - nqe lus hais GERALD FRANKS

Koj GILL: Kuv cia nws Honour muaj ib lub caij nyoog los nyeem daim ntawv qhia hais tias koj Lawton.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, Kuv tau nyeem hais tias.
Koj LAWTON: Tau ua tsaug. Cia li yuav kom meej, koj Franks, lub tsheb uas koj tsav tsheb on tias hnub twb uas los ntawm Canberra txiv neej lub Centre? --- Yog.
Thiab koj tsis tau muab koj Bailiff tso cai rau puas lub tsheb on hnub ntawd? --- Tsis muaj, kuv tsis.
Hais tias yog tag nrho cov lus nug no kuv muaj, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Ua tsaug rau koj. Kuv ib tug ua ntej koj yuav pib koj Gill. Kuv nkag siab tias muaj ib daim ntawv qhia los ntawm koj Bailiff mus rau kev uas koj yuav xa cov nqi mus rau nws tus neeg tswv. Koj puas tau ua ntawd? --- Muaj, peb tau ua, yawg.
Nws them li? --- Via qhov kev tuav pov hwm lub tuam txhab.
Tau, thiab nws them li? --- Tau, yawg.
Ua tsaug rau koj. Tau, koj Gill.
Cross-kev soj ntsuam ntawm koj GILL

Koj GILL: Tau, ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour. Koj Franks koj lub taub hau lessee ntawm hais tias lub tsev, yog hais tias txoj cai? --- Yog. Canberra txiv neej lub Centre yog lub taub hau lessee, yawg.
Thiab thaum twg mas nws hais tias Canberra txiv neej lub Centre ua lub taub hau lessee ntawm lub tsev, ntxhib? --- Ntxhib 12 lub hlis ua ntej ntawd, tej zaum nws yuav tau ib tug me ntsis tsawg.
Thiab puas tau hais tias ua raws li ib co tsi ntawm kev ntug txog seb puas los yog tsis tau koj Bailiff yuav muab ib lub tsev? --- Tus txheej txheem raws li kuv rov qab nws yog hais tias koj Bailiff mas nyob rau hauv kev hem thawj ntawm laij koj tawm ntawm vaj tse ib txwm ACT thiab Vaj Tse ACT txav mus zeb Canberra txiv neej lub Centre thiab nug peb yog tias peb yuav npaj los muab ib qho kev pab kev xaiv rau koj Bailiff nyob rau hauv lub zej zog, uas peb pom zoo.
Yog ib co tsi thiaj li tau los ntawm koj Anforth txog kev ib lub tsev rau koj Bailiff? --- Kuv tsis rov qab.
Koj puas puas tau rov qab koj Bailiff hais lus rau koj hais txog koj Anforth ua ib tug thiaj li rau nws tau txais ib lub tsev? --- Tsis uas.
Thaum lub sij hawm ntawm no qhov teeb meem yeej muaj ib tug high degree ntawm teeb meem ntawm koj tus kheej thiab koj Bailiff? --- Thaum lub sij hawm ntawm qhov teeb meem? Tsis yog ib tug high degree nyob rau lub sij hawm ntawm qhov teeb meem.
Zoo cia kuv nug koj no. Ces koj Bailiff qhia nws tsis pom zoo nrog rau Canberra txiv neej lub Centre ua nyob rau daim ntawv xauj tsev? --- Tau.
Thiab nws tau ua uas nyob rau ntau sij hawm? --- Tau.
Puas nws ntseeg tias, nyob rau hauv qhov tseeb, hais tias koj tus neeg uas nyob rau daim ntawv xauj tsev? Tu siab, puas nws qhia rau koj hais tias nws ntseeg hais tias koj tus neeg uas nyob rau daim ntawv xauj tsev es tsis lub Canberra txiv neej lub Centre? --- Tus ntawd yog ib tug kom meej hais tias kuv tsis rov qab.
Koj puas tau mus xyuas tias lub tsev ntawm lub sij hawm mus rau lub sij hawm? --- Tau.
Koj puas muaj ib tug yawm sij mus rau hais tias lub tsev? --- Tau.
Puas koj Bailiff qhia rau koj hais tias nws tsis txaus siab rau koj muaj ib tug tseem ceeb uas pub koj nkag mus rau lub tsev? --- Tau.
Koj Bailiff qhia rau koj hais tias nws tsis xav kom koj nkag mus rau
lub tsev? --- Yog tsis muaj nws kev tso cai, muaj.
Muaj sij hawm uas koj ntaus lub tsev yam tsis tau kev tso cai nws? --- Tsis txhob.
Koj BAILIFF: tawm tsam, koj Honour. Kuv tau txais lub cim no tshuav nyob rau hauv kuv lub tsev ---
Nws HONOUR: koj Bailiff, zaum.
Koj BAILIFF: Nws yog dag, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Nws tsis yog koj tsis lem.
Koj GILL: Tam sim no, muaj ib co tsi ntawm kev tsim kho nyob rau footpath cheeb tsam, yog hais tias txoj cai? --- Yog.
Thiab twb muaj tau sib ceg ntawm koj tus kheej thiab koj Bailiff txog seb puas yuav hais tias tsim nyog yuav tsum tau muab tshem tawm? --- Nyob rau hnub.
Thiab koj puas tau muaj ib qho kev sib cav ua ntej hais tias lub sij hawm txog seb nws xav tau yuav tsum tau muab tshem tawm? --- Tsis yog hais txog kev teeb tsa. Hais txog qhov ntawm pawg av.
Txoj cai. Thiab koj puas muab nws nrog ib hnub kawg rau kev tshem tawm ntawm
yam khoom ntawd? --- Kuv puas tau.
Tag nrho cov cai. Thiab yog dab tsi nov hnub kawg? --- Kuv tsis rov qab.
Koj puas tau qhia rau nws nws xav tau kom tshem tawm cov kev teeb tsa los ntawm lub kawg ntawm lub lim piam? Yog hais tias koj tsis nco qab, koj yuav hais tias koj tsis nco qab? --- Tau, kuv tsis nco qab.
Koj puas nco qab seb puas los yog tsis koj hais rau nws tias kawg ntawm lub lim tiam mas yuav ib tug Thursday? --- Kuv nco ntsoov muab nws lub ntsiab lus ntawm ib tug qhia uas tau muab rau kuv. Cov kos yog hnub, kuv tsis rov qab. Muaj ib ncua sij hawm uas tau muab los ntawm, Kuv ntseeg tias, Housing ACT.
Koj ciali mus qhia nyob rau hauv koj daim ntawv qhia tias koj Bailiff tau ib co tsi hem los mus ua mob rau koj? --- Tau.
Yog tias dab tsi koj meant hais nyob rau hauv koj daim ntawv qhia? --- Tau.
Tag nrho cov cai. Kuv xav kom kom koj hais tias koj tsis yog thaum koj assert hais tias nws hais tias, "kuv yuav ntaus koj"? --- Kuv tau hais rau nws raws li kuv hnov ​​nws los ntawm koj Bailiff on lub hnub.
Koj puas puas pom tau tias nws nyuaj rau ua raws li dab tsi nws yog hais? --- Tsis tiag tiag. Muaj sij hawm thaum lub sib tham no yog lub caij nyoog thiab nws tsis ua txawv. Nyob rau hauv thaum ntxov ua sawv thaum peb tham nyob rau hauv ib lub siab tus thav duab ntawm lub hlwb, koj muaj peev xwm Bailiff suab tshwj xeeb yog muaj kuab.
Lawv tsis calm no tej hnub, kuj lawv? --- Nyob rau thaum ntxov ua sawv ntawm sib tham, muaj.
Yuav ua li cas sai sai li lawv ua uncalm? --- Yuav luag instantly thaum nws sawv thiab txiav txim siab los mus lawm thiab puas lub tsheb.
Hais tias yog tom qab koj tau muab nws ib tug qhia txog tshem tawm ntawm cov khoom? --- Nws yog raws li raws li lub ntsiab lus. Kuv tham nws hais txog tshem cov khoom, muaj.
Thiab hais tias yeej tseem nyob rau hauv lub ntsiab ntawm nws tsis tu ncua tsis pom zoo txog koj muaj ib tug yawm sij mus nkag rau dab tsi nws kev raws li nws lub tsev? --- Tsis yog, nws tsis hais txog tias nyob rau hauv tag nrho.
Ntev npaum li cas ces nws tau hais tawm rau koj nws tsis pom zoo txog koj ua tau nkag mus rau nws lub tsev? --- Zaum txog rau lub hlis. Tej zaum ib me ntsis ntev.
Txawm li ntawd los ntev nws, koj puas soj ntsuam hais tias yuav ib yam dab tsi uas nws yuav los ua ib chim txog? --- Tau.
Kuv tuaj rov qab rau qhov teeb meem nrog lub tsheb tam sim no. Koj hais tias ob tug sib txawv pob zeb raug muab los ntawm ntau qhov rais? --- Tau.
Kuv yuav xav mus rau koj hais tias nws yog ib tug pob zeb muab los ntawm ob lub qhov rais? Koj puas pom zoo nrog ntawd?
Nws HONOUR: Nyob rau hauv lwm yam lus, nws yuav tau tib lub pob zeb nws nqa rov tom qab nws ---? --- Tiag.
Koj GILL: Nws yuav? --- Nws yeej yuav.
Nws tau tam sim ntawd muaj Nyiaj Raug Mob Tom hauv kev hwm ntawm kev puas tsuaj uas ua? --- Muaj tseeb.
Thiab nws qhia rau koj ib co hom phiaj kev cob cog rua nrog tau rau hauv lub Supreme Court thaum nws puas tau nws? --- Kuv tsis rov qab nws hais dab tsi txog lub Supreme Court. Kuv rov qab nws hais tias, "Tam sim no kuv muaj ib qho teeb meem nrog rau Canberra txiv neej lub Centre."
Koj BAILIFF: tawm tsam, koj Honour, hais tias yog vim li ntawd untruthful. Kuv muaj.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai. Cia li coj ib lub rooj, koj Bailiff. Peb yuav tuaj rau koj cov ntaub ntawv nyob rau hauv vim hoob no.
Koj BAILIFF: kuv xav kom koj paub no xwb yog dag, los yog nws tau txais dementia.
Nws HONOUR: zoo, peb yuav ua hauj lwm uas tawm tom qab.
Koj GILL: Lawv yog tag nrho cov lus nug no Kuv tau txais koj Franks. Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Ua tsaug rau koj.
Koj LAWTON: Nws muaj ib yam dab tsi sawv, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Franks. Koj zam.
NEEG UA POV THAWJ WITHDREW

Nws HONOUR: Tam sim no, koj Lawton.
Koj LAWTON: Tus ntawd yog tus pov thawj rau Crown, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: cas.
Koj GILL: Ua ntej commencing tus tiv thaiv koj cov ntaub ntawv, uas muaj kev hu rau koj Bailiff, koj Honour, kuv hais tias cov khoom ua ntej koj yuav yog xws li mus rau ib qho pov thawj acquittal yam tsis tau hnov ​​dab tsi ntxiv. Kuv cia cai ntawm R v Prasad 23 SASR 161, uas tsuas yog tsom qhia dab tsi, ntawm chav kawm, yog cov ntaub ntawv nyob rau hauv tej yam sib, tias ib zaug lub foob rooj plaub kaw, qhov tseeb Finder muaj cai acquit yog hais tias lawv tsis nyob rau hauv hais tias taw tes persuaded dhau ib tug uas tsim nyog raws li nrog rau tus txhaum.
Nws HONOUR: Lub tsuas yog av thaum uas kuv yuav paus uas yuav puas siab puas ntsws puas.
Koj GILL: Nyob rau ntawm no, muaj.
Nws HONOUR: Koj to taub dab tsi lub txim ntawm tias yuav?
Koj GILL: Tau.
Nws HONOUR: Well, peb cia li siv sij hawm uas nyob rau hauv thiaj li. Thawj zaug ntawm tag nrho cov, puas siab puas ntsws puas tsis muaj xws li lub hlwb puas tsuaj.
Koj BAILIFF: Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Qhov lus coj nws tsis pub dhau rau tej tswvyim.
Koj ces mus rau seem 28 ntawm criminal Code 2002 (ACT) ('criminal Code'). Nws obviously, nws yuav zoo rau kuv, tsis paub qhov thiab zoo ntawm nws cai. Raws li Dr George tus qhia, muaj tej zaum yuav ib lo lus nug txog nws muaj peev xwm los tswj nws. Hais tias yeej tsis zoo tshwm sim.
Koj GILL: yeej nws ciali los sawv cev rau ib co tsi justification rau nws ua.
Nws HONOUR: Nws yeej yuav tsis muaj peev xwm yog vim li cas nrog ib sim degree ntawm kev nkag siab los yog composure.
Koj GILL: Zauv
Nws HONOUR: Nws obviously xav tus cwj pwm tsis yog tsis ncaj ncees lawm.
Koj GILL: Tau.
Nws HONOUR: Albeit objectively koj yuav tsis pom zoo nrog cov uas.
Koj GILL: Yog, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: koj Lawton?
Koj LAWTON: Nyob rau hauv nqe lus hauv Seem 28 (1) (b) ntawm qhov txhaum Code thiab tus peev xwm nyob rau hauv subsection (2) ---
Nws HONOUR: kuv mus seem 28 (1) (c).
Koj LAWTON: Puas yog koj mus (c), koj Honour?
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj LAWTON: Kuv xav tias koj lis txog nrog Seem 28 (1) (b).
Nws HONOUR: Section 28 (1) (b) tau nyob, tiam sis kuv hais tias (c) nkawd kuj yuav tau koom.
Koj LAWTON: Tau. Nws yog nyuaj heev rau sib nrauj. Peb muaj pov thawj ntawm tus foob. Peb muaj dab tsi twb qhia los ntawm koj Franks nyob rau hauv hais tias nws lub mus rau nws tias koj txiav txim siab los Bailiff smash lub tsheb windscreens.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv xav hais tias yog yeej ib justifiable inference. Rau lo lus nug tsis yog seb nws puas tau txiav txim siab txog nws tiam sis dab tsi nws kev txawj ntse txog qhov wrongfulness ntawm nws kev yeej thiab yuav ua li cas uas tau muab tau. Uas yog thawj taw tes. Thib ob, seb tus cwj pwm mas nyob rau hauv tej yam muaj nuj nqis siab ntawm lo lus muaj peev xwm yuav tswj.
Koj LAWTON: kuv xa tias koj Honour, nyob rau ntawm no theem, nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus (c), yuav tau txaus siab nyob rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv foob tias nws yuav tswj nws tus cwj pwm. Tab sis tej zaum qhov teeb meem uas koj xav Honour tseem yuav tsum tau los mus txiav txim yog nyob rau hauv nqe lus hauv pawg lus (b) thiab lub peev xwm ntawm subsection (2). Nyob rau ntawm no theem, kuv hais rau koj hais tias Honour nrog hwm rau daim ntawv thov los ntawm kuv tus phooj ywg, qhov pov thawj yog tsis yog li ntawd inherently qaug zog. Nws yog nej muaj zog nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus ntawm kev ua.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv am tsis txhawj txog nws kev ua nyob rau hauv no hwm. Kuv txais tias kev ua ntawm smashing lub windscreens puas tau noj qhov chaw, thiab nws yog ib tug Thaj li txoj cai ntawm yuav nyob rau koj Bailiff lub ib feem vim nws tsis txais lub Proposition tias nws tus qauv yuav tsum tau muab tshem tawm.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour, kuv muab nws ib tug caij nyoog tsav nws lub tsheb kom deb tom qab nws ua kuv ---
Nws HONOUR: cas, hais tias yog tag nrho cov cai. Kuv tsis muaj kev txhawj xeeb txog ib tug caij nyoog tsav tsheb tam sim ntawd.
Koj BAILIFF: Nws yuav tau tsav deb, koj Honour. Kuv los ntawm Healesville, koj Honour. Hais tias yog qhov twg bushfires tshwm sim, koj tus Honour.
Nws HONOUR: kuv tsis xav paub txog bushfires.
Koj BAILIFF: Qhov no yog cia li thaum bushfires twb tshwm sim, koj tus Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv xav mloog koj Lawton rau lub caij.
Koj BAILIFF: Yog, txias.
Koj LAWTON: Kuv yuav heev luv luv, koj Honour. Kuv xa on cov kev xaus koj Honour yog ncav tias (a) thiab (c) tsis enlivened tab sis qhov teeb meem tseem nyob ---
Nws HONOUR: Kuv yeej txaus siab rau (a) yog tsis koom. Kuv tsis txaus siab rau hais tias (c) yog tsis koom tab sis hais tias yog tsis rau lo lus nug. Rau lo lus nug yog seb nws yog koom. (B) rau ntawm lwm yam tes ---
Koj LAWTON: (b) yog tej zaum tej zaum qhov tsim nyog ib tug, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, nws yog ib qhov.
Koj LAWTON: Thiab peb tham nyob rau hauv tshuav ntawm probabilities nyob rau hauv subsection (5). Kuv xa tias koj xav tau kev pab Honour hnov ​​ib yam dab tsi ntau tshaj ua ntej txaus siab rau. Cov qhov nyuaj yog tias ib tug muaj rau sib nrauj yog dab tsi koj Bailiff tau hais tias nyob rau hauv lub tsev hais plaub rau hnub no thiab lwm hnub. Hais tias yog tsis ib feem ntawm lub pov thawj ua ntej koj.
Nws HONOUR: Muaj yog ib co lus nug txog tias. Kuv txaus siab rau nws Honour, Penfold J, twb tham txog hais tias nyob rau hauv relation mus rau plea. Tab sis yeej nyob rau hauv relation mus rau ib pawg neeg pab txiav txim mus sib, tus cwj pwm ntawm tus liam nyob rau hauv lub tsev hais plaub yog ib yam dab tsi ntawm pawg neeg pab txiav txim muaj peev xwm yuav mus rau hauv tus account.
Koj LAWTON: Tus ntawd yog txoj cai, koj Honour. Tab sis kuv thiaj li kuv hais ---
Nws HONOUR: Nrog ib co peev xwm.
Koj LAWTON: Nrog rau ib co kev tsim nyog thiab kev coj tus kheej nyob rau hauv lub siab hais tias kom mus sib tau xwb commenced ib co 20 feeb dhau los. Tau tshwm sim no rau yav sawv ntxov mas nyias muaj nyias mus rau hais tias.
Nws HONOUR: Nws yog, muaj.
Koj LAWTON: Li ntawd, kuv raws yuav hais tias tab sis muaj ib co kev them nyiaj yug rau seem 28 (1) (b) ua enlivened, koj Honour lawm yuav tsum tau hnov ​​ib yam dab tsi ntau tshaj ua ntej txaus siab nyob rau hauv tshuav ntawm probabilities hais tias nws tau ua tawm.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour, Kuv yuav muab kuv tus kheej nyob rau hauv lub pov thawj lub thawv thiab yuav Cross-ntsuam xyuas los ntawm kuv tus kws lij choj thov?
Nws HONOUR: Zauv
Koj BAILIFF: Los yog barrister.
Nws HONOUR: kuv tsis xav tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv rov qab txhua yam, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: zoo heev. Tiam sis nyob rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv no qhov teeb meem uas tau raug tsa yog seb puas seem 28 (1) (b) ntawm lub txhaum Code yog koom thiab seb tshuav nyiaj nyob rau ntawm cov probabilities nws tau tsim muaj uas tus neeg tau ua tsis pub dhau lub ntsiab lus ntawm ntu 28 (1 ) (b) paub nws cwj pwm mas tsis ncaj ncees lawm. Rau cov hom phiaj kuv noj tus account ntawm seem (2) uas yog hais txog qhov tseeb hais tias: "[ib tug] tus neeg tsis paub cai tsis yog lawm, yog hais tias tus neeg uas ua tau los tsis yog vim li cas nrog ib sim degree ntawm kev nkag siab thiab composure txog seb tus cwj pwm, raws li pom los ntawm ib tug uas tsim nyog tus neeg, tsis yog lawm. "
Nyob rau hauv kuv lub tswv yim, qhia ntawm Dr George, uas tau raug tendered los ntawm tus foob raws li tso rau neeg siab 1, xav pov thawj ib tug nrhiav raws li Seem 28 (1) (b). Nws yeej nkawd rau kuv tias koj Franks 'pov thawj yog muaj raws li hais tias dhau lawm. Muaj tsis muaj muaj kuab yog vim li cas yog vim li cas koj Bailiff yuav tsum tau puas koj Franks 'lub tsheb. Kuv txaus siab rau koj Bailiff tej zaum yuav tau xav tias nws muaj ib tug zoo yog vim li cas. Txawm li cas los, hais tias yog heev point: muaj tsis yam nrog rau ib sim degree ntawm kev nkag siab thiab composure txog seb puas no cwj pwm, raws li pom los ntawm ib tug uas tsim nyog tus neeg, yeej tsis ncaj ncees lawm. Nyob rau hauv qhov tseeb, kuv tsis xav tias koj yuav Bailiff txawm paub li cas uas tus qauv meant nyob rau hauv nws lub xeev ntawm lub hlwb.
Yog li ntawd rau hais tias yog vim li cas kuv pom tau tias koj Bailiff yog tsis txhaum ntawm qhov ua txhaum them by yog vim li cas ntawm kev puas hlwb puas.
Koj LAWTON: Raws li koj Honour pleases.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv muab qhov yog vim li cas thov?
Nws HONOUR: Kuv tau txais qhov yog vim li cas. Kuv tsis xav tau tej yam ntau.
Koj BAILIFF: Tab sis, Kuv yuav muab koj lub yog vim li cas, koj Honour?
Nws HONOUR: Tsis tau Kuv tau twb tau txais nws.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv cia li dhia nyob rau hauv lub pov thawj lub thawv thiab muab qhov yog vim li cas?
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog, koj ua tau los tsis tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis koj Honour, kuv paub zoo heev hais tias thaum neeg yog hais txog mus tas sim neej nyob rau hauv bushfires thiab kuv raug ua los ntawm ib co Hmoob nyob rau hauv 43 degree kub ---
Nws HONOUR: koj Bailiff, Kuv tau cia li pom koj tsis txhaum. Zaum.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis koj Honour, hais tias yog tsis ncaj ncees.
Nws HONOUR: Qhov kuv pom koj tsis tau ua txhaum?
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour, kuv xav kom koj paub tias yog kuv muab cov tsos mob ntawm lub hlwb puas tsuaj ---
Nws HONOUR: Kuv tau txais nws.
Koj BAILIFF: Well koj Honour, Kuv meant hais tias yog kuv muab nws rau koj ---
Nws HONOUR: Kuv tau txais nws.
Koj BAILIFF: Great tias koj muaj nws. Thiab yog hais tias koj muaj tus tshaj plaws, ob qhov chaw nyob qhov twg nws yog los ntawm, cov phau ntawv ---
Nws HONOUR: Kuv ua tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Tom qab ntawd koj Honour, tej zaum koj yuav xav txog qhov tso cov tsos mob ntawm lub hlwb puas tsuaj nyob rau hauv ib tsab ntawv ceeb toom raws li txoj cai, raws li nyob rau hauv ib qhov kev txiav txim ---
Nws HONOUR: Zauv
Koj BAYLSIS: Qhov no yuav yuav ib tug uas raws li txoj cai kev txiav txim, koj Honour, yog li ntawd nws muaj cov tsos mob ntawm lub hlwb puas tsuaj.
Nws HONOUR: koj Bailiff, kuv tau hais tias qhov kev txiav txim. Qhov kev txiav txim yog hais tias yog vim li cas ntawm kev puas hlwb los ntawm puas, uas yog raws li ib tug ntawm koj cov organic rau lub hlwb puas, koj tsis txhaum no ua txhaum.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis koj Honour, muaj peev xwm koj tsis koj muaj cov tsos mob ntawm lub hlwb puas nyob rau hauv koj cov kev txiav txim? Kuv txhais tau tias zoo li ---
Nws HONOUR: Kuv puas tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis koj Honour, koj tsis ntaus dab tsi Kuv ---
Nws HONOUR: Nws yog txhua yam nyob rau hauv cov ntawv tseem ceeb.
Koj BAILIFF: Tab sis kuv tsis nyeem cov tsos mob ntawm tshaj familiarity, lub callousness, lub insensitivity, tshuaj ntsuam ntawm Mood yam tseem ceeb los, euphoric. Koj Honour ---
Nws HONOUR: Koj tau tam sim no hais rau lawv tag nrho, lawv yog cov tag nrho cov ntawv tseem ceeb nyob rau hauv.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj puas xav kom kuv mus nyeem koj rau tag nrho plaub, koj Honour, yog li ntawd nws yog nyob rau cov ntaub ntawv?
Nws HONOUR: Koj cia li hais rau lawv, koj Bailiff, nws yog tag nrho cov nyob hauv cov ntaub ntawv tam sim no.
Koj BAILIFF: Tab sis qhov tag nrho nplooj ntawv, kuv tsis tau nyeem rau koj, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Koj tsis tas yuav.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv txhais li cas, koj Honour, qhov zoo tshaj plaws nyob rau hauv tus txiv neej relation mus rau qhov no yog kuv stepfather, cas. Kuv xav tau ib txoj cai qhia rau lwm tus neeg muaj txiaj ntsim, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: cas. Txaus. Uas yog txaus.
Koj BAILIFF: Yog li koj Honour, kuv yeej to taub hais tias koj tes laug cia ib qhov kev txiav txim.
Nws HONOUR: cas. Tam sim no yog dab tsi tom ntej no thiaj li, koj Lawton.
Koj LAWTON: Koj Honour, koj muaj ib tug tshwj xeeb verdict ntawm tsis txhaum los ntawm yog vim li cas ntawm kev puas hlwb puas. Tias enlivens faib 13,3 ntawm teeb meem txhaum cai Act 1900 (ACT) ('teeb meem txhaum cai Act').
Nws HONOUR: Yog, obviously saib xyuas yog tsis tsim nyog.
Koj LAWTON: Well, kuv xav tias nws yog ib qho uas tsis loj heev ua txhaum nyob rau hauv txhua rooj plaub, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv tsis paub txog hais tias.
Koj LAWTON: Nws yog cia li nyob rau hauv seem 325 ntawm qhov teeb meem txhaum cai Act.
Koj GILL: Seem 300 Deals nrog loj txhaum.
Nws HONOUR: 300.
Koj BAILIFF: Ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour, rau qhov kev txiav txim.
Nws HONOUR: Tus ntawd yog tag nrho cov cai.
Koj LAWTON: Nws tsis yog ib qho loj heev ua txhaum.
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog, nws tsis yog, koj yog cov cai.
Koj LAWTON: Yog li ntawd lub xwb kev xaiv koj tus Honour muaj, nyob rau hauv seem 328 ntawm qhov teeb meem txhaum cai Act, koj yuav ua tau rau ib tug thiaj li hais tias nws xa mus rau ciaj ciam ntawm lub ACT Civil thiab Administrative Tribunal ('ACAT').
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj LAWTON: kuv zam txim, yog hais txog 328 rau Magistrates tsev hais plaub. Nws yog ib seem 323, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Tus ntawd yog txoj cai.
Koj LAWTON: Tam sim no koj twb tseem muaj ib lub hwj chim detain nws nyob rau hauv saib xyuas.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv yuav ua hais tias, kuv paub, tab sis kuv tsis xav hais tias nws yog ib qhov uas tsim nyog.
Koj LAWTON: Qhov txawv yog hais tias tej zaum koj yuav rov qab nyob rau hauv qhov teeb meem ntawm R v Nicholls [2010] ACTSC 25 uas seem 324 ua rau lub presumption hais tias nws yuav nyob rau hauv detained saib xyuas.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj LAWTON: Muaj tsis xws li ib tug presumption nyob rau hauv seem 323.
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog, Kuv to taub tias.
Koj LAWTON: Lub tsuas yog qhov teeb meem uas tej zaum yuav ntawm cov kev pab, koj Honour, yog los tej zaum hnov ​​- thiab kuv tus phooj ywg tej zaum yuav muaj ib co pov thawj no ua hauj lwm lawm - txog dab tsi ACAT yog ua nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus ntawm tsis tu ncua txoj kev kho mob ntawm koj Bailiff. Koj yuav tau rov qab los ntawm no thaum sawv ntxov lub Plaub hais tias Dr George tau qhia cov kev txhawj xeeb uas nws yuav tsum tau tej zaum yuav zoo dua kho dua li tam sim no nws yog.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj LAWTON: Thiab whilst feem ntau ntawm cov txhaum uas koj Bailiff tuaj ua ntej lub tsev hais plaub yuav tsis muab suav hais tias yuav tsum tau nyob rau hauv lub Upper kawg ntawm tus spectrum, ib tug yog ib txwm muaj kev txhawj xeeb tias tej zaum lawv escalate nyob rau hauv lub neej yav tom ntej yog hais tias tau hais tias tej kev kho mob yog tsis tswj.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour, Kuv yuav extraordinarily, tsis tshua muaj zoo coj.
Nws HONOUR: Well, kuv thiaj ua tau ib yam kom meej rau koj. Koj tsis tau mus ncig tawg qhov rais.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour, kuv yuav tsis ua hais tias puas tau dua, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Zoo.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv tsuas sim tau tshem ntawm Canberra txiv neej lub Centre. Nws raug nqi rau kuv Grand rau kev ruaj ntseg rau cov nuj nqis nyob rau hauv kuv lub tsev thiab lawv tuaj rau kuv lub tsev tag nrho cov sij hawm.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai. Zoo peb tsis xav paub txog hais tias tam sim no, vim hais tias kuv cia li qhia koj hais tias koj tsis tau ua zoo li hais tias, tag nrho cov cai?
Koj BAILIFF: Tsis yog, Kuv yuav tsis ua li ntawd, koj Honour. Kuv yuav tsis ua ntawd. Koj Honour, qhov ntev pab tub ceev xwm, hais tias yog kuv zoo-yawg, Billy Bunker Aiden, 1832 mus rau 1995. Koj Honour, lub Bailiffs mus los ntawm Normandy thaum lub sij hawm intensive sib ntaus sib tua nyob rau hauv Battle ntawm Hastings. Koj paub, ib tug Bailiff muaj mus rau chaw hais plaub. Yog li ntawd koj Honour, kuv tuaj los ntawm ib tug tub rog thiab kev cai lij choj yav tag los. Kuv yeej tsis ua li ib tug xwb, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Zoo.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv tsuas yog ua dab tsi yog yuav tsum tau.
Nws HONOUR: tau koj noj ib lub rooj tam sim no?
Koj BAILIFF: cas. Tab sis koj Honour Kuv yuav muaj cov tsos mob ntawm lub hlwb puas tsuaj nyob rau hauv ib tsab ntawv ceeb toom raws li txoj cai, koj Honour?
Nws HONOUR: koj Bailiff, noj ib lub rooj.
Koj BAILIFF: Vim hais tias nws tsis yog nyob rau hauv lub tsev saib ntawv raws li txoj cai, koj Honour, thiab kuv yuav yog li xav thov ua tsaug.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai.
Koj LAWTON: Nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus li ACAT yog ua nrog koj Bailiff, kuv ntshai kuv yuav tsum tau siv ib co lus qhia los ntawm kuv tus qhia uas tau detained nyob rau hauv lwm lub tsev hais plaub.
Nws HONOUR: Nws tej zaum yuav tau paroled, koj yeej tsis paub.
Koj LAWTON: Nws yuav. Tab sis tau ib tug coherent lo lus teb rau koj Honour kuv xav tias kuv yuav tau ua nws hais tias txoj kev.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai. Zoo thaum koj xav tau rov tuaj?
Koj LAWTON: Nej koj Honour cia hais tias kom tshwm sim tom qab noj su so?
Nws HONOUR: zoo kuv ua tau, los yog kuv tau ua rau nws ib tug me ntsis tom qab.
Koj LAWTON: Qhov ntawd yuav tsum txaus.
Nws HONOUR: Ntawm no yog nws los.
Koj LAWTON: Yog hais tias koj xav cia li Honour muab kuv ib lub caij?
Nws HONOUR: Yog, nco ntsoov.
Koj GILL: Tej zaum thaum kuv ib tug phooj ywg tsis hais tias, koj Honour. Koj Hancock ntawm Attorney General-lub Chaw ua hauj lwm hais kom kuv mus dhau on tias Attorney tau tsis yeem mus intervene nyob rau hauv kev hwm rau daim ntawv ceeb toom mus rau Human Rights Act.
Nws HONOUR: zoo raws li nws tshwm sim, uas tsis tsim nyog.
Koj GILL: Tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Sorry koj Honour, peb mus lub tsev saib ntawv thiab kuv googled lub hlwb puas tsuaj, muaj yog tsis muaj dab tsi muaj nyob rau hauv txoj cai qhia, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: cas.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj puas tau kev pab nrog hais tias, koj Honour?
Nws HONOUR: Muaj, peb yuav ib yam dab tsi ntxiv.
Koj BAILIFF: Vim hais tias kuv stepfather yuav tsis tham rau kuv yog hais tias kuv tsis muaj ib tug lub hlwb puas tsuaj precedent, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Txoj cai.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj paub, nws muaj cuab kav yuav muab pov thawj yog hais tias koj xav tau, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Tsis yog, peb tsis tas yuav nws.
Koj BAILIFF: Tiam sis nws hlub ib tug kev txiav txim siab ---
Nws HONOUR: kuv nco ntsoov nws li tiam sis peb tsis tas yuav nws. Cas?
Koj GILL: Koj Honour, kuv hais tias tsis muaj ACAT Hais Plaub hauv relation mus rau mental health. Muaj ACAT Hais Plaub hauv relation mus rau ib tug saib xyuas thiaj li, tiam sis tsis nyob rau hauv relation mus rau ib tug puas siab puas ntsws noj qab haus huv thiaj li. Thiab peb tsis ntseeg hais tias muaj tej yam uas daim ntawv thov rau ib tug txoj kev kho mob kom muaj yam tsawg kawg 12 lub hlis tas, tej zaum ntev tshaj li hais tias.
Nws HONOUR: Well Kuv tsis tau ua ib txoj kev kho mob kom thiaj obviously.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj puas xa kuv mus rau ib tug neurologist, koj Honour, ib tug neurologist, Alan Leeshman nyob rau hauv London, rau cov hnub so?
Koj GILL: Yog li hais tias yog tag nrho cov kuv tau qhia rau koj tus Honour txog tias.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov kuv yuav ua tau yog ua kom ib tug thiaj li yuav tsum tau nws mus rau xa mus rau ciaj ciam ntawm ACAT kom ACAT kom tswv yim pom zoo.
Koj GILL: Thiab rau lo lus nug yog, puas koj Honour xav tswv yim pom zoo rov qab los ntawm ACAT nyob rau thaum xaus ntawm txoj kev?
Nws HONOUR: Thiab txawm hais tias yog tseem ceeb nyob rau hauv txoj kev tshwm sim kuv tsis paub.
Koj GILL: Kuv tsis paub dab tsi koj Honour yuav ua yog hais tias cov lus pom zoo twb tau kom koj nyob ntawm hais tias taw tes.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv tsis tau ua ib txoj kev kho mob thiaj li rau ib tug pib.
Koj GILL: Tsis Yog li ntawd lub ntsig txog tiam lis pej xeem Scheme tsis heev paub rau kuv, kuv tau hais rau koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Tau. Zoo muaj ib qho hwj chim kom xaj suav hais tias yog tsim nyog uas kuv hais tsis xav txhais tau tias, nyob hauv lwm yam, yog hais tias muaj ib tug kev pom zoo los ntawm ACAT, kuv yuav ua tau rau ib tug thiaj li muab siv rau cov tswv yim pom zoo insofar raws li lub hwj chim ntawm lub Tsev Hais Plaub ncua.
Koj BAILIFF: Dr George lub tsab ntawv ceeb toom yog nws kev pom zoo los ntawm ACAT, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Ua tsaug rau koj. Kuv tau txais tias.
Koj BAILIFF: Kuv ua ntxiv traumatized los ntawm ACAT uas tsis muaj ib tug neurologist thiab nws yog li ntawd upsetting.
Nws HONOUR: Nws yog heev upsetting kuv nco ntsoov.
Koj BAILIFF: Tab sis, kuv muaj peev xwm muab ib tug tshiab precedent.
Nws HONOUR: cas.
Koj GILL: Yog hais tias muaj ib lo lus nug, koj Honour, raws li rau nqi hluav taws xob los ntawm ib tug muab xa mus rau ACAT.
Nws HONOUR: Yog, kuv xav txog nws.
Koj GILL: Nws yog ib qho kev daws teeb meem discretionary ntawm qhov teeb meem, thiab yog dab tsi yog tsis ua ntej koj Honour yog tej yam khoom uas hais tias qhov kev txiav txim yuav tsum yuav tau siv los ntawm ib tug muab xa mus rau ACAT rau kev pom zoo.
Nws HONOUR: Tau.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj muaj peev xwm xa kuv mus rau kuv GP tshaj txoj kev, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: Kuv li.
Koj BAILIFF: Alan Leeshman, zam txim tsis Alan Leeshman, Stephen Moulding, zam txim.
Nws HONOUR: cas. Kuv tau txais ib lub tswv yim nyob rau hauv lub hlwb. Txhua yam koj xav hais tias koj Lawton?
Koj LAWTON: Kuv thiaj tus nqi hluav taws xob ntawm qhov muab xa mus rau ACAT yog tseeb los mus nrhiav tau tawm yog hais tias lawv npaj yuav xav txog ib daim ntawv thov rau ib tug txo lub hlwb txoj kev kho mob thiaj li.
Nws HONOUR: Los yog dab tsi.
Koj LAWTON: Los yog dab tsi. Tab sis obviously los ntawm saib ntawm Seem 323, thiab koj Honour tej zaum yuav rov qab los ntawm qhov teeb meem ntawm R v Michael Gary Caine SCC Tsis 214 ntawm 2008 peb xa nws mus rau lub Tribunal, ACAT kuv yuav tsum hais tias, yog li ntawd lawv yuav muab ib tug hais txog koj tus Honour li cas txoj kev kho mob yuav muab kev koom tes thiab seb puas los yog tsis muaj yuav ib co nqi hluav taws xob nyob rau hauv txoj kev kho mob los ntawm cov muaj nws detained thiab ces zoo tso tawm sai li sai tau. Kuv tsis paub seb puas yuav hais tias yuav tshwm sim ntawm no.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour Kuv yuav muab los muab cov pov thawj los ntawm lub pov thawj lub thawv, koj Honour, thov?
Nws HONOUR: Koj muaj peev xwm muab nws, tab sis kuv tsis tau txais nws. Kuv tsis pom qhov nqi hluav taws xob yuav tsum tau ntawm nws mus rau xa mus rau ACAT qhaj ntawv tej daim ntawv thov los ntawm leej twg nrog rau cov Dr George. Peb yuav yeej ib txwm hais tias ua lawm. Nws li rau kuv xwb ces kuv yuav ua tau, koj Bailiff, yog los extract ntawm koj ib undertaking hais tias nyob rau hauv 12 lub hlis tom ntej no koj yuav tsis koom tes nyob rau hauv tej yam txhaum cai.
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour kuv ua hauj lwm no. Kuv cog lus rau tus so ntawm kuv lub neej kuv yuav tsis ua dab tsi tsuas yog noj mob mus rau lub High Tsev Hais Plaub, koj Honour, kev Sir Anthony.
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai.
Koj BAILIFF: Thiab Sir Anthony thiab kuv tau ua phooj ywg, thiab koj Honour Kuv yuav cia li muab tso rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv, nws yog nyob rau hauv Hansard, nyob rau hauv Parliament, tias kuv yog tus txiv neej uas coj qhov kev txiav txim nyob rau hauv High Tsev Hais Plaub hais tias raws sim hawm caij nyoog txhua Tub Ceev Xwm hauv tsoom fwv lub teb chaws hu rau Canberra thiab Australian txhaum Commission yuav tsum tau tsim muaj. Koj Honour nws yog nyob rau lub ntiaj teb no rau theem tias kuv lub Pope lub apology rau Oceania nyob rau hauv 60 hnub, koj Honour.
Nws HONOUR: zoo heev.
Koj BAILIFF: Yog li whilst Phil hais tias delusion, koj Honour, nws yog brilliance, koj Honour. Sir Anthony txawm said kuv nws ci ntsa iab raws li txoj cai tus tub kawm ntawv, thiab kuv muab nws tus xov tooj thiab ---
Nws HONOUR: Tag nrho cov cai, kuv tau txais koj cog lus, muaj kuv?
Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour, koj tau txais kuv oath. Koj puas xav kom kuv mus tau rau hauv lub pov thawj lub thawv thiab muab oath pov thawj?
Nws HONOUR: zoo meej. Nyob rau hauv hais tias rooj plaub, lub Plaub muaj xaus lus.



Koj BAILIFF: Koj Honour kuv yuav tsis ua dab tsi, koj Honour, kuv yeej xav thov ua tsaug, koj tus Honour. Koj Honour, Kuv yuav co koj txhais tes, koj Honour? Kuv ua tsaug rau koj, koj Honour, Vajtswv foom koobhmoov rau koj, koj Honour.
Kuv lees tias tus ntej peb puas thiab plaub caug (340) numbered paragraphs yog ib tug yeej muaj tseeb daim qauv ntawm yog vim li cas rau cov kev txiav txim ntawm nov mus nws Honour, Thawj Kev Ncaj Ncees Higgins.

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Date: 30 Lub ib hlis ntuj 2012


Ntuas rau Crown: koj J Lawton
Solicitor rau Crown: Thawj Coj ntawm Public foob rau ACT
Ntuas rau tus neeg raug foob: koj S Gill
Solicitor rau tus neeg raug foob: Kamy Saeedi kws lijchoj
Hnub ntawm lub rooj sib hais: 30 Kaum ib hlis 2011



Hnub ntawm kev txiav txim: 30 Kaum ib hlis 2011